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My husband is serving an 18 month sentence for something he actually didn't do but anyways, I'm new at this and have never gone through any of it and neither has he. I'm just kinda worried he will get in with the wrong people or piss the wrong person off and something horrible will happen!
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I was a prisoner at Utah State Prison. The truth is it depends how you treat the gaurds. For the most part they are like the inmates. I was in max for two years for stabbing a guard, and I was never disrespected again. They are like the inmates in that they will pick their battles, and most know who is and who isn't a serious threat. They're worse than the inmate because they feel validated behind their uniform. But inmates wear uniforms too... lol they just need to unite as the co's have.
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My dad was in the utah state prison for about five years total, in and out for the last ten years, he has told me that none of the guards play these mind games you people are talking about. You all need to remember that even though they are your loved ones, they are trying to get you and everyone else to feel bad for them, the guards and staff are only doing their jobs, it is up to the prisoners how they want to be treated.
And also remember they are in there for a reason for something they did. Yes there are some guards that may do things that aren't right but that does not mean that they are all bad.
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I've been a Correctional RN and all of the nurses that I've worked with have seen some and/or many of the guards provoke the prisoners with demeaning and cruel behavior.
"A Critique of the American Justice System" is a must read for all human beings associated with our "rehabiliation/justice" (NOT)system. The problem stems from the bully syndrome e.g. the authoritarian personality. These individuals need to have someone to "knock around or belittle" while kissing up and conforming to strict leadership due to their insecurities and anger issues.
The authoritarian personality often joins controlling religions or organizations and will put leaders on pedestals while abusing their wives, children, or inmates if they are correctional officers/guards/police. It is not the money that attracts many into these positions of authority, but the opportunity to be a boss/bully.
Seminars to instill fairness and proper treatment of prisoners are maligned and sneared at as the mentality is that it is their job to punish and command the offenders and sometimes RNs also... The system that allows this is sick~ "All is NOT well in Zion"
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I've spent roughly ten years in the Utah State
Prison, and have been out for about ten years now.
I really disagree with the comments that say
prison guards play mind games. There are some guards that have something to prove, but for the most part if you do what your told then it goes
smooth in there.
I didn't experience any mind
games from guards at all. I did experience a lot
of "group punishment" in there. Basically, it means that if one idiot does something wrong, then they lock the whole unit or section down for it until they find out who did it.
I'm not sticking up for guards either. I'm just saying that prison sucks and it's designed that way so you never want to go back. Sure, you're
going to have horrible cellmates at times, yes,
guards are going to rip your cell apart for no
reason, sure you'll have to fight at times, yes,
you'll get punished for someone else's wrong doing, yes, everyone goes through some type of depression in there. Prison IS a mind game and you have to be aware of where you are at all times. You have to stay mentally sharp all the time and pick your friends wisely.
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I Have a husband in Utah State Prison serving a 4 year sentence, also have had various family members in and out of this prison and these are the stories I hear, I agree with the stories above. I go and see him alot and see the stuff the guards put them through, and it's only what I see.
I agree they are people too and feel the guards there treat them like Sh** and do provoke them into various situations everyday wanting for them to mess up so they can punish them in one way or another I think that the inmates and families should be able to take a stand and make the warden ect. open his eyes to what is really going on instead of just going by what the guards say the situations are, I agree that they make it harder on the inmate than it should really be.
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My brother is in a Utah state prison and the problems with the guards is a constant topic in our letters. That worries me because you can only provoke my brother for so long before he flips out. I do think that if he hits a guard that it should require further action. but NOT if it was because he was provoked. Then when opportunity for parole rolls around for my brother, how is it going to look? These guards need to realize that these inmates are people and they have family missing them and waiting for them to return safely home. Not just to be there longer because they are taunted into violence! I'm not saying what my brother did to get in there was right, but i also don't think he should be kept in floozin cramped cell for the rest of his life either.
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My brother committed suicide in prison on 2/20/09. The investigators said the Warden would call my mom but to date he has not done this. The prison seems more scared of their liability then the grief that our family has. My brother committed suicide and answers are wanted for our grief not for profit. It is too bad that this seems unimportant to those that could give us some information.
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I just read those stories to my husband. He was sentenced a zero-five to Utah State Prison. He said he has never had any problems with the staff. The three years he was a prisoner there. He believes you make your time what you want. In my opinion people are there because of wrong choices they made. We shouldn't look down on the people working there, trying to do their best. To provide for there families and trying to keep ours safe. We all must remember... The inmates are trying to make us feel bad for them. They are trying to find anyway to get an early release. Its time they became men and took responsibily for there actions! And not blame these brave men and women doing their job. I believe there are probably a few bad people that work at Utah State Prison but lets remember all the good ones.
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My Husband is currently spending time in Utah State which is a sad situation but he has told me some not so good stuff about the gaurds and counselors that are provided at Utah State. He started off in A West which is a evaluation center and from the get go before he even meet his counselor the counselor already know what he was going to do with my husband. The first day he meet my husband is statement was " I already know all about you and your going to Prison." Then they are suppossed to be even handed in their counseling but they are not. They never contacted anyone on my husbands behalf and only contacted the Victim. This all got brought up in court but it's just a said situation. They put him in for 14 month - 15 years. Then the gaurds had him in a cell with a someone that suffered from delutions and that needed medication. Will they were not giving him his medication and he would go into violent episodeds and scare my husband half to death. Then the gaurds would put this poor man into a holding cell and start him on his meds. again and right when they put him back in the cell with my husband they would stop giving him his medicain again. It was very upsetting to hear how scared my husband was for his live almost everyday and not he's there for God knows how long away from my and our 1 year old daughter with no idea when he will be getting out. I know that they are criminals but they are still humans and just because they are in there doesn't mean all of them are bad people. One day all of these so called protectors will be held accountable from their actions.
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I completely agree with both of your posts. I am a lonely mother of two beautiful baby boys. Everytime I visit my once strong husband and happy father to my boys, he is like a different person. Everytime I see him i can see him becoming weaker and weaker and it breaks my heart. I dont know whats going on behind those walls but he sometimes does tell me things about the guards. There is one in particular he always refers to - he calls him ***, hes one of the worst. I know this *** fella has been on to my man and im not happy about it. I just cant seem to get through and find out what has actually been going on. Rape and violence is rife and everytime i see my man he has different scars on his face. My man made a mistake and wound up in that hellhole - i just want him to come out and put it all behind us. Hes got about 4 months left but im just afraid hes building up so much hate and anger that when he does come out he might end up on the rocky road again - i dont need that for our future or our kids. Whats going on inside that prison is an abuse of power and is absolutely sickening. I could post stories on here but they are so sickening. all i can say is i wouldnt wish any of it on anyone.
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heres a real good one i agree with the story those who are i there for life dont care how they treat others they have nothing two loose but also they side with the guards and its realy sad that the inmates are running the joint cause there lifers and the guards dont care two bad the warrden does see whats going on thats were are system is falling the inmates that are there for life are running the joint inmates who think they are cops are telling other inmates what two do and getting away with it cause the warrden doesnt see what a world we live in wake up prison
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I have a grandson in the utah state prison and he tells the same story about the guards and how they do, as the person did in the story above I agree with you on everything, since I think most of the guards at Utah State prison are Mormons.
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i have a brother in utah state prison that writes me frequently about prison guards and staff that treat prisoners very abusively and continually plays mind games with the prisoners to provoke them into acting out and giving the guards reasons to use brutality against them. They also use other inmates as their instruments of brutality against the weaker inmates of the prison. This intimidation and brutality to all prisoners must be stopped and the quilty guards must be reprimanded and terminated from these positions. Inmates are there because of problems in their lives and do not need to be treated badly because of those who think they are better than the prisoners. who knows, a time may come when these guards find themselves in similar situations.
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