1/31/2012 1:35:41 PM
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Bonnie
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With regards to the 1971 riot where Bert Robert was #1 to be killed. I was just wondering what became of the Housekeeper involved at the time. She spent time as well in the Kingston pen. Her name was Mary Teresa Lena Depatie, released Aug. 18 1974. It would be nice to communicate with somebody from the inside that knew of her or any information about her.
Looking forward to a response.
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1/31/2012 3:43:35 AM
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Cheshire Cat
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My father Thomas Moore went to KP and was married to Sarah Hicks back nearly 22 years ago. I am desperately trying to find out more about my family. if you know anything please. Message or email me.
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1/19/2012 2:46:04 PM
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teri
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I just noticed a past inmate named Alfie Gillies posted 12/30/2011/ This is impossible as sadly, alf passed away last year. I should know, I am his niece.
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I wondering about 2 inmates... one possibly still there.. Daryl Sutton
The second was sent to KP around the year 1990'ish Al Massicotte
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1/10/2012 6:41:31 PM
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JESS
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family member / significant other
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montanagirl@live.ca
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MY FATHER WENT TO KINGSTON PEN FOR RAPE AND MURDER, AROUND 1977 TO MAYBE 1990. HIS NAME WAS CHUCK, CHARLES SWEET, I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OLD INMATES MAY HAVE KNOWN HIM.
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12/30/2011 1:21:14 AM
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alfie gillies
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past inmate
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Almost the worst place I've been. Not quite was there all of 1971. Scary and sadly there when my dad died. I wish I could start again and there are always regrets or you have not learned from your mistakes.
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I have been searching the internet for any and all information on the kingston riot of april 1971. I get fragments of information from all different sources, and none of it is consistent with the other. I'm looking for stories or anything dealing with the riot. I'm doing research for a friend because the information they were told about it and what I've discovered differ a bit. I'm mostly looking for info on Billy K, who was supposedly one of the people who started the riot
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11/8/2011 11:05:00 AM
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kelly
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family member
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kc73@live.ca
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I need someone's HELP! I am looking for information on my father, initials T.H.D. He was sent to k.p about 16 years ago and was marked a dangerous offender. I have never really had a relationship with him but have recently been told that he has passed away. If anyone can help me or if anyone knows him that can tell me some things about him I would very much appreciate it...even little things.
Please email me at kc73@live.ca if you have any information that would help me.
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My brother was sent to KP when he wasn`t very old. He had been transferred there from Penatang. The reason he was in Penatang was because my mother had my dad request that he be sent sent there because he had tried to choke my sister ( which was something I would have done). We were kids. While he was in KP I`m sure he was raped but he would never talk about what happened to him. He was there when the riot took place and later got transferred to Millhaven.
Like I said he was a kid when he got sent to Penatang. As far as I`m concerned our mom had to many kids ( 9) and needed to get rid of a few
At the time my brother was in Penatang my other brother got sent there to be evaluated because he was an epileptic with a few problems. I was sent to a home for unwed mothers ...
Just another way for her to get rid of the kids. 9 kids in a 3 room bungalow/with a cousin living there too.
My brother has passed away from cancer but he had a terrible life.
RIP Ron
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9/3/2011 2:56:42 PM
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Sidney
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family member
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shlv_g@yahoo.com
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My name is Shalev.
I have never been to Kingston Penitentiary, but my grandpa was incarcerated in the early 60's.
My mom has spent years trying to find him, or any information on him as the last memory she has of him is him waving a white handkerchief out of his jail cell window.
It would mean the world to us to have any information on him at all. Even just a story or memory of him. He might be deceased by now, but we still would like to know him a little bit better.
His name was Sidney Finney, or Reno Taylor, and played classical and flamenco guitar. Hopefully someone somewhere has any information on him
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we spent many many years as children visiting our dad at k.p.
He was with his own kind, he was fed three times a day, had a place to sleep, didn't seem to suffer too much at all. In fact he always looked well-fed and healthy. A husky fella that never lost an ounce of weight in there. We were lucky to have meat once or twice a month. Thank god for the sally ann - they always gave us a food basket for christmas with a small turkey. Otherwise we'd have nothing while he enjoyed a christmas dinner.
we were on the outside, shunned by neighbours, taunted at school, continually moving to try and stay ahead of the gossip when people found out who we were.
The guards? They were darn good to us kids, always had a candy or stick of gum for us. Christmas we were each given a small sack with apple, orange and candy in it. At easter we always got an easter egg. They were always friendly and polite to us and our mother. If we had a question they were more than happy to answer it. Even homework questions! Lol
so life in prison wasn't the hilton - some of the inmates supposedly have to share a cell - we had three of us to a bed.
whatever life they led inside those walls was better than what we lived on the outside of those walls.
those of us on the outside suffered more punishment than the one who was guilty.
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Yeah' I was in K.P. in 1971. They had blocked off all the tiers that were above 3rd level because of damage done by the riot that happened just before I arrived. My address there was 4-2-H block ' that means I was the fourth cell in and I was on the second tier and it was in H Block.
They were putting cinder blocks in the windows so we could'nt see the grass and flowers growing but some guys were pushing on the bricks from the inside which slowed things down till the guards got wind of it. There was also bats flying around inside our block. I was a Protestant so they gave me a pink card to put in a little thin groove on the outside of my cell. It also mentioned my length of sentence - 5 years.
There was one guy a few doors down from me who was a writer of sorts and when certain people got wind of this person that he was getting shipped out to another place all hell broke loose. They decided to pipe him but he was able to wrestle his way out of his cell and when he saw that he was bleeding badly from the head he shouted 'You tried to kill me,' so in retalliation the writer tried his best to throw one of his attackers over the railing (no fence barricades yet). Well we were down below this spectacle in the common area playing cards so we got ringside seats and the only thing that came off the tier was the pipe from the squeegee pail which was hidden.
We were all made to line up against the wall to be searched then we all got locked up. My nickname was Kenny, if anyone remembers me I think it would be neat to get confirmation of my story which could also be your story. I have more to write but first let me hear from anyone who was there. thanks for this opportunity to share. I was there.
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You are not double or triple bunked at KP. Yes the cells are small and yes the beds are made of plastic.
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I spent nine (9) years in KP. 1984 to 1992, while three (3) months short of nine years. 8 yrs 8 months and 23 days before I was transfered.
I read the stories about the riot in 85 the hostage taking in the hospital wing. You sure miss alot.
It was nice and I mean nice to finally read someone had finally escaped KP in 1999. Its first and only escape.... well enough here is my story about KP.
I arrived after they reopen KP for inmates after a short refit. The cells were one inmate to each cell you wake up for breakfast, travel down to the hole in the wall to pick up your tray, then back to your range to eat for the first year you eat on the range cells were open, got ready for work or school, close your cell off to work all my time I worked in SIS.
Lunch return to the main building picking up your tray and returning to your range, counts were done then off to work agian.
then back to the ranges for count watch a little tv on the range, yard was called, out to the yard back to the range another count then gym called or canteen you could just sit on the range and watch tv then back to the range if you were in the gym one hour lateer it was lock up till morning.
day in and day out only change was weekends on work unless in kitchen, morning yard in for lunch afternoon yard in for supper, out to yard in for count andthen gym or canteen back for lock up.
But things happen as in every prison fight here, smash up there and slowly things changed. no more sitting on the ranges to watch tv or play cards or just chat. Not in yard o4r gym, locked in cells no more then four inmates on the range at a time.
While there 3 inmates killed, one by guards during a hostage taking in the mail bag repair shop, St. Germain funny no mention of that.
Tention keep growing each year as more little freedoms were taken away. Stabings, staff being taken hostage.....
Heres one not mention - Female guard taken by a distraught inmate with a homemade fashon knife, razor blade on a tooth brush. Was she in danger, hell yes at first but the quickthinking of a fellow inmate who talk the guy down found out what was happening manage to secure the inmates request free the guard and escorted him as promise to the hole to make sure he didn't get the shit kicked out of him by the goon squad. sorry tactical response team. (please understand 80% of the staff were decent, you caused no problems they gave none.
Most gloriffied babysitters, do their 8 hrs and out.
Was I happy to leave fn right, have I very gone back no.
Prison was what you made it. I had one of the first computers in the cell, one of the first tv's in the cell one of the first university grads thru the mail. Had been the only one ever to have a yoga class recieved there.
seen a former nun leave the chaplians office to begin a relationship with an inmate. (well maybe they got caught first) several little stories of things that happen.... war stories. How about the one two great friends (gay lovers??HA!) staged a break out.... you never mention that..... One was released the other still had alot of time to do, the one released is in ottawa, he takes a diplomat hostage (TV MOVIE made of it) the truth a little different then in the movie. He wanted the inmate released and brought to ottawa and a plane away. But settled to return to his lover in KP.
Don't think it is true, then explain how he pleads guilty and within two months back in KP, not milhaven SUPER MAX. Then on the same range.
Fam inmates or should I say sickos that were there during my stay, how about the baby killer from BC, (I use no names) or the ex cop who threw his wife from the high rise in TO, or the rapist who killed the little girl from the apartment he care taked at.... thew list goes on and on. Those are the sicko lucky I was never near them the protected ones.
We had our killers, the few crazy ones thrown in. you want to know something I never asked what anyone was in for, it didn't matter.
Those who wanted to know this and that were trying to deflect or hide what they did. Those I stayed away from.
Friends none, knew alot of guys, no friends. It wasn't till my release did I find out about a couple of them from tv shows or they re offend and thier past record is told in the media. Never read any papers inside avoided the news as much as possible. My life was inside those walls, I knew what and where in there.
Just one thing Inmate rehablatation is BS, as an inmate you change because you want it to end and you get a goal and go after it. Learn a trade and once out change what you were and be who you want.
You play the game given to get out, then play the game to stay out. 15 yrs of incarceration enough for me in canada and the US.
Just to let you all know Canadain prisons are summer camps conpared to the Two US stste prisons I had the misfortune of ending up at. But thats another story. Been out now 15 yrs straight as an arrow.
Don't even speed.
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My brother spent time at KP, he told me it was an awful place. Working in KP for an inmate was not good. the cells were small, you can touch either side, double and sometimes triple bunks. I went to Kingston to visit him and even went to the museum next door. They show the old and new cell, and the new cell I have a problem with. The beds are made of plastic, and my brother told me of the fires that happened in cells because of plastic beds. What was CSC thinking, to make things worse. They first put one inmate to a cell, now they are putting 2 and sometimes 3 people to these new cells. After looking at these new cells, how can CSC say they need more money for security, CSC needs to build more prisons, over crowding the prison's is going to make more violent people in the long run, these people are going to get out someday, and this forced over crowding etc will be the end.
Hey I am not saying let these guys out of jail, but I am saying is send more money to build new prison's.
LOL I know you people are laughing, well I hope you not in those over crowded prison's when those guys riot.
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If the guards were treating you like inmates than you must have been treated like royalty. The officers at KP are the speartip of correctional reform. KP officers are appreciative of their position within the Canadian Criminal Justice System and try to maintain the safety and security within the penitentiary walls with a humanistic approach. Officers refer to inmates as clientelle and approach the challenges of a violent and unpredictive work environment with much humility and passion. Although security of the institution must trump all other considerations, the operational approach is similar to other areas in the Human Services Field. Perhaps the above person could save herself feelings of indignation by becoming more respectful of the correctional officers and it would be reciprocated triplefold.
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I have been visiting Kingston for 9 years on and off.
I have had a lot of problems with the drug dog. They need to get rid of the dog as the dog is not fully trained. There is nothing but problems. All the time the gaurds treat us like we are inmates. It really makes me sick the way they treat us.
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Hi. I remember the mid 70s at Kingston. It was max back then. The 1970s were complicated years for everyone but I'll try and make a story out of max.
I remember we played a game of baseball. I played 1st base and had fun that day putting them out at 1st. And in the gym a game of floor hockey. We would walk to get our meals and bring them back to our cell to eat and in our cell we had earphones for music. We had a few games of cards to.
I wasn't in Kingston long and was soon shipped out to Joyceville. I worked in the kitchen at Kingston fixing trays and pushing them out the opening in the wall. They had me in a big cell for a while, with 2 doors on it. An old wooden door and one made of bars. I had an old wooden toilet too. A very short while hahaha ....very old prison was Kingston.
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2/3rds on stat release if you are on violent charges. From 1/3rd to 1/6th on non-violent offenders approved for APR.
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Let's just say they sentence you to two years, from what Im aware you dont do the full two years right? How many months really would I serve of that sentence, let's say?
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I went to the so called big house as a matter of fact at the time ever inmate was sent their that was serving 2 years or over. Anyways this is a place that you would want to avoid because it was ugggly!
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